tvr plenum testing

[ivanhoew]

https://youtu.be/IIml91NYn-k

[damunk]

Still trying to figure out why such a big increase of 25-30%

[ivanhoew]

Damunk,
it is because i have stopped the swirling air running straight into the incoming air , so there is less pressure at the point of entry.

i must admit to being a little suprised too.

[Malvin]

Nice video Robert
I like the 2" disk Idea to help stop the air from swirling

[ivanhoew]

thanks Malvin . in the end i used a inch thick piece of nylon ,about 55mm diameter to get the best effect .i sacrificed a bit of flow to get the best distribution . but 380 cfm , should be enough for my 3.5 litre engine that would need flow for around 220 bhp nat asp.

[RACEPUMPER]

but 380 cfm , should be enough for my 3.5 litre engine that would need flow for around 220 bhp nat asp.

Is it still Turbocharged Robert?

Jim

[ivanhoew]

hi jim , yes still turbo , i took out the small one and just left the big one in there . its now on the rd after 9 years in the shed.
i made a spool valve for it ..





and this is the effect it had on the boost,




not really good enough , so at some point i will put a smaller 60mm turbo on it .


but its now time for me to get back to the garage roof ,and medusa i think .

robert

[ivanhoew]

New experiment to use the flow bench to compare spooling characteristics between turbos for the tvr .

i really don't want to cut out loads of 1/2 inch plate etc and weld it all up to find it doesn't spool any better than the one i took off ,which is the one on the flow bench there .

i will make a inch nozzle for the compressor outlet ,and a tapping in the side for the pressure drop feed to the flowquick ,then i can compare turbo's using a flow and pressure based graph , should be good ..

[ivanhoew]

well looks like my new hx50 , is little better than my old hc3-8 holset , ...time for the hx40 to take the stage ...here's a couple of graphs , from the bottom line we have first is the hc8 then hx50 and then hx40 with a 19cm turbine housing and than a hx40 with a 16 cm on there ... oh and then the little IHI for reference...






then i blocked one port on the turbine housing of each turbo ,compared to the IHI in light blue you can see it makes quite a difference ...





turbos are in the same order as first graph ,just different colours apart from the IHI.


the holset hx40 16 cm housing is outspooling the little IHI ! which used to come on pretty bloomin hard in the tvr .


regards
robert

[Tony]

Robert, I tried something like this myself many years ago, blocking off one half of a twin scroll turbine housing.
What happened for me, was that the turbine back pressure increased far more than the boost increased, creating so much exhaust reversion that it hurt spooling rather than helping.

Its not the same as just fitting a much smaller turbo. With a small turbo, the turbine is still fairly well matched for rpm and torque requirements of the compressor.
By blocking half the turbine that totally screws up the turbine/compressor matching, and the results are not the same as with a smaller turbo.

Try plotting turbine inlet pressure against developed boost pressure, and see how that goes.
Heaps of low end boost is good, but not if it also creates massive exhaust back pressure to get it.
I had exactly the same problem with trying to control a movable vane Garrett VNT turbo. I just could not get high boost with low exhaust back pressure when closing down the vanes.

Anyhow, its an interesting experiment.