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Posted:
Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:04 pm
by 115-1172523331
Hi all, As I promised in my "Finally Working" (Readers projects) post, here is one on my new bore adapter (pic attached). As I was looking at it, I thought the clear aspect of the adapter might provide for some flow visualization, qualitative if not quantitative. A few questions popped into my head (and it is filled with my spreadsheet/geometry problems right now), so I thought I would ask this group. Has anyone ever tried to put an array of short strings inside or on the walls of these things, and did it provide any insight? I know that "string on a stick" is sometimes used in the inlet, but would a string long enough to pass through the valve and into the bore adapter be worthwhile to detect swirl or tumble? In testing aircraft in wind tunnels we used short tufts of "frogs hair" looking for turbulence, could that work on the inside of the head for finding stagnant and high energy areas? Does anyone have any thoughts, or other ideas in this area? I have read previous posts about using smoke, I guess that also applies here. I am already planning on doing the above mentioned "techniques" and will report, just wondering if you have tried any?
Now I see why Bruce calls this an "addiction"! -- Doug
Posted:
Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:30 pm
by bruce
Small tufts of string and duct tape on the valve head has allowed me to see changes in flow on my flatheads. I've done the "string on a stick" and it was enlightening.
No need to limit yourself on doing it or not doing it based on what others have or have not tried, give it a go and see what you find . . . it's an "addiction" be a junkie LOL
Just be aware that what ever you use could come loose and end up going through your blowers so make sure it's small. I wrapped string around my swirl meter one time!! I snake my string into a piece of tube (gives you a handle) so one end is sticking out the front and the other is out the back taped to the tube and use it that way, course the part sticking into your port starts out a lot long.
Edited By bruce on 1200504698
Posted:
Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:11 pm
by 115-1172523331
Hi Bruce, I was planning on doing it anyway, just wondered what others have done. It there a post on the swirl meter?
Doug
Found the post! Looking at your paddles and remembering some other things I went to AudieTech.com for a refresher. Their meter uses a thin disc of honeycomb (for sensitivity) and a more sophisticated version of your output device. If I remember right, you had some thin honeycomb laying around from a flow straightener experiment. Hmmmmm! just a thought!
Doug
Posted:
Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:50 pm
by larrycavan
Tip from Darin Morgan:
Big Gulp Drink Cup & Dry Ice - will give you a visual pattern of what's taking place.
Posted:
Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:39 pm
by 115-1172523331
Thanks Larry, "Smoke" that doesn't trip fire alarms and goes away! May I say "COOL"? -- Doug
Posted:
Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:34 am
by 106-1194218389
I came across Darin Morgan's web site and it is a must see. The page I have included is his "wet flow" page. Extremely interesting. His whole site is a must see. I love Darin's attitude that he does not try and hide anything.
John