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Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:43 pm
by larrycavan
John,
At last...the drawings are coming to life! Looks like a good start John...post some test results...
Larry C ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:08 am
by Mousehouse1
John the bench looks good. Keep us posted on your progress.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:59 am
by Nick
It looks like you put a lot of thought into this one.
I like the way you are changing air flow directions.
Good work
Nick
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:48 am
by Mouse
After installing all the motors in the tower, it looks pretty cramped for space in the exhaust side. This may restrict flow. I may have to exhaust this side both from the top and bottom for satisfactory flow. I don't really wantr to exhaust out the bottom because I don't know which way to direct the exhaust so that it won't create problems, like becoming a leaf blower inside my shop.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:54 pm
by larrycavan
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:44 pm
by Thomas Vaught
The SF 1200 bench has the motors mounted at the very bottom of the bench facing upward. Not much space there yet the motors exhaust just fine. I would try it before doing a second hole.
Tom V.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:27 pm
by Mouse
Preliminary testing of the TP (Tower of Power) flow bench using a Flow Performance FE2.5m flow element and an FR4b bench receptacle and SurplusCenter.com #16-1234 motors:
All figures are at 28"wc
2 motors....180 SCFM
4 motors....340 SCFM
6 motors....485 SCFM
8 motors....560 SCFM
This is with a single exhaust outlet at the top. I will try another exhaust on the bottom also.
This is also with a 3" pipe leading down from the TP. Since a 4" Y will not fit inside the 2' width of the bench, I will try to cut two 4" Ls and glue them back together to make a more compact 4" Y so that I can use a 4" down pipe from the TP.
Comments:
The built in valves work great. The whole thing is surprisingly quiet.
Works well with a 30 amp 220 volt dryer circuit.
John
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:39 pm
by Thomas Vaught
Notice the following?
All figures are at 28"wc
1 motor roughly 100 SCFM
2 motors....180 SCFM (or 90% of flow)
4 motors....340 SCFM (or 95% of flow)
6 motors....485 SCFM (or 81% of flow)
8 motors....560 SCFM (or 70% of flow)
As you add motors to the equation the actual flow will drop more and more and you get less average flow out of each motor.
Tom V.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:30 pm
by Mouse
Yes, internal restrictions probably.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:37 pm
by Thomas Vaught
John, can you repost your internal drawing of the motor box for the Tower of Power?
Thanks
Tom V.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:09 am
by Mouse
![Image](http://flowperformance.com/images/airbox.jpg)
The only changes sp far are that I am exhausting out the top instead of the bottom while in intake mode. Keeps the "leaf blower" effect from dusting my shop floor at inconvenient times. I also have a valve every two motors (I have 8 motors in actual build).
John
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:37 pm
by Thomas Vaught
Thanks. I am still looking at the horizontal check valve orientation for a friends bench. If he wanted to buy the check valves (capable of enough flow for 6 motors flowing - Bottom check valve has to support flow of the 6 motors above it).
Please pm me with a price.
Thanks
Tom V.
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:50 pm
by Mouse
The Tower of Power hit 610 SCFM @ 28" today! This was venting all the exhaust out the top and none through the bottom.
Specs:
8 SurplusCenter.com #16-1234 vacuum motors
Flow Performance FE2.5m flow element
Flow Performance FR4b bench recptacle
30 amp 220 volt cloths dryer circuit
3 internal check valves, every two motors.
I placed a 4" down pipe and Y in place of the previous 3" down pipe and Y from the air box.
I wired the motors in parallel so that I could use household 20 amp switches instead of finding 220 volt switches.
John
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:39 pm
by Thomas Vaught
Nice work.
The FP FE2.5m is a "Hot Wire" or a Pitot tube
element?
Tom V.